Former DNC donor and fundraiser Lindi Li has been in the news repeatedly since the 2024 election. She is one of the loudest voices calling out the Democrat party and the Kamala Harris campaign for blowing through more than a billion dollars and losing, with no accountability on how the money was spent.

She recently appeared on the Shawn Ryan podcast and when Ryan asked her who was running the government for the last four years, she said it was Obama’s third term, confirming what many other people have suggested.

She then went on to name people in Biden’s inner circle, such as Anita Dunn, Ron Klain and others.

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Commentator and former campaign advisor Lindy Li spoke on the “Shawn Ryan Show” about who was really in charge during President Joe Biden’s run at the White House and dished on Kamala Harris’s campaign for president.

“A lot of people say it was Obama’s third term. There’s rumors of… And these aren’t even… These are friends of mine that are moderate Democrats, say that they thought it was Elizabeth Warren running it. They thought it was Bernie Sanders running it,” host Shawn Ryan said. “But I think the general consensus, I think if you asked the majority of the population, they think it was Obama’s third term.”

“It was for sure Obama’s third term. I don’t think that’s even a question,” Li replied.

“That’s why you saw Obama fighting for his dear life. Why was he fighting so hard in the fall? Because he was fighting for his fourth term. He was fighting for his own legacy,” she continued, comparing the relationship between Obama and Biden to that between Lyndon B. Johnson and John F. Kennedy.

Watch the clip below: